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  • what do you guys think about Aerochargers?

    I read about them @ corky bell's book [maximum boost] {i never heard of them before} but i can see they are not very popular among the car community or are they?, what do you guys think about them?, have you seen one?
    1987 300zx, VG33, Manual, Megasquirt, 450cc, T04,Tial 44mm External WG, ebay IC, crushed dsm blowoff, Apexi AVC-R at 15psi, efan, 3" exhaust with dynomax muffler, LSD.

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    I've seen them on an NSX, looks like a small turbo :wink: .
    They are not very popular. I also believe they are no longer being made.
    BEGI website says no longer available.
    The Garrett ball bearing turbos work so well, and are available in large sizes people want. Aerochargers were very small.
    Thats all I got.

    Paul

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      • #4
        and any electrical fan will not scale with engine speed, so any blowing it does would only be good off-idle, maybe add a little kick ....

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        • #5
          The Aerochargers (that I believe he's talking about) are variable nozzle turbos... not electric. Are you guys talking about this type of setup? http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18

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          • #6
            yep, not electric stuff, the ones that you put oil and seal them and connect them in the system like any other turbocharger.
            1987 300zx, VG33, Manual, Megasquirt, 450cc, T04,Tial 44mm External WG, ebay IC, crushed dsm blowoff, Apexi AVC-R at 15psi, efan, 3" exhaust with dynomax muffler, LSD.

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            • #7
              AeroCharger = Variable Area Turbine Nozzle (VATN) turbo

              "Garrett Variable Area Turbine Nozzle (VATN) turbo reduces turbo lag with
              dynamic variations to the area through which exhaust gases enter the
              turbine housing. VATN turbos accelerate exhaust gases through small
              nozzle size when exhaust energy is low to quickly spool the turbo, but
              increase nozzle size as exhaust energy increases with boost and engine
              RPM—thereby reducing backpressure as an adverse side effect as engine
              output increases."

              http://tinyurl.com/w96zj
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_g ... rbocharger
              http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/inde ... _next=prev
              http://www.technologie-entwicklung.de/G ... turbo.html

              I've been thinking about it too.

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              • #8
                MachZ wrote: The Aerochargers (that I believe he's talking about) are variable nozzle turbos... not electric. Are you guys talking about this type of setup? http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18
                Man, that thing is kinda cool! too pricey right now though at 1600 bucks. That would work great on my stock 240sx!
                85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
                04 GTO, LS6, big cam, porting, N20... underway for summertime daily driver.

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                • #9
                  1artworkz wrote: AeroCharger = Variable Area Turbine Nozzle (VATN) turbo

                  "Garrett Variable Area Turbine Nozzle (VATN) turbo reduces turbo lag with
                  dynamic variations to the area through which exhaust gases enter the
                  turbine housing. VATN turbos accelerate exhaust gases through small
                  nozzle size when exhaust energy is low to quickly spool the turbo, but
                  increase nozzle size as exhaust energy increases with boost and engine
                  RPM—thereby reducing backpressure as an adverse side effect as engine
                  output increases."

                  http://tinyurl.com/w96zj
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_g ... rbocharger
                  http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/inde ... _next=prev
                  http://www.technologie-entwicklung.de/G ... turbo.html

                  I've been thinking about it too.
                  Thus eliminating the need for a wastegate if properly set up.
                  85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
                  04 GTO, LS6, big cam, porting, N20... underway for summertime daily driver.

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                  • #10
                    [quote]SATAN wrote:
                    Originally posted by MachZ
                    The Aerochargers (that I believe he's talking about) are variable nozzle turbos... not electric. Are you guys talking about this type of setup? http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18
                    Man, that thing is kinda cool! too pricey right now though at 1600 bucks. That would work great on my stock 240sx!
                    yeah right, the Eram electric supercharger is way better.
                    Lance 'never-ending 88na2t project' Landry
                    I sell Z stuff when I'm not being lazy.
                    Trace cell phones via GPS: http://www.phonetrace.org

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                    • #11
                      [quote]Lance wrote: [quote=SATAN]
                      Originally posted by MachZ
                      The Aerochargers (that I believe he's talking about) are variable nozzle turbos... not electric. Are you guys talking about this type of setup? http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18
                      Man, that thing is kinda cool! too pricey right now though at 1600 bucks. That would work great on my stock 240sx!
                      yeah right, the Eram electric supercharger is way better.
                      OK wheres the link for that one. I've never bothered searching for this shit. It allways seemed stupid to me. I didnt know they were actually making progress with this stuff!

                      Lazylinkypleazy
                      85 Z31 6.0 LSX turbo 766whp/792wtq
                      04 GTO, LS6, big cam, porting, N20... underway for summertime daily driver.

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                      • #12
                        I can't remember the link, but there was an aussie site that reviewed it and the airflow was comparable to a computer cooling fan that they tested. I see the Eram advertised in ricer magazines in the back still to this day for ~500.
                        Lance 'never-ending 88na2t project' Landry
                        I sell Z stuff when I'm not being lazy.
                        Trace cell phones via GPS: http://www.phonetrace.org

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                        • #13
                          :lol: the Eram... definitely doesn't compare to those Thomas Knight setups. They're actually pretty cool and would theoretically be one of the most efficient forced induction setups out there. The only downside is it requires recharging after using it for a short period of time, which if used for 1/4 mile runs wouldn't be all that bad. Definitely wouldn't be good for autocross/road courses/etc.

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                          • #14
                            ^ I could also see it being a restriction in the intake tract when not in use.
                            Garbage.
                            imagination is a virtue

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                            • #15
                              craZed wrote: ^ I could also see it being a restriction in the intake tract when not in use.
                              Garbage.
                              wouldn't be hard to have a butterfly valve to bypass it when not in use.
                              Funny stories!

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