A Pillar gauges

  • Turbo86
    Turbo86
    Senior Member
    • 138

    A Pillar gauges

    So I want to get the lo-tek A pillar 3 gauge pod. Best prices I have found are at egauges.com.

    Initially I wanted these gauges

    C2 Autometer type,
    electric boost gauge
    wideband A/F ($360!!!)
    EGT gauge

    but that would cost $550!!!!

    So, now I think I decided on:

    Cyberdyne electric water temp gauge
    C2 EGT gauge
    C2 mechanical boost gauge

    This fits into the budget much better. Anybody have comments on this setup? Know of a better deal somewhere? Should I go for broke and get the electric boost gauge? How is the accuracy of mechanical boost gauges compared to electric?

    Thanks for any comments/advice,

    Sean
    1986 300zx turbo, 5-speed, T-Top 2 seater
  • joeyfeets
    joeyfeets
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    • 117

    #2
    My water gauge is invaluable. I have a mechanical boost gauge. You're on the right path by getting a boost gauge, I do admit it would have been easier to run an electric gauge though. Running a vac line is a little harder than a signal line. My vac line has held up for a few years and not melted or anything, & the gauge seems reliable, so mechanical is a good bet if you want to save $$$. I have some pics and words about my a-pillar wetup on my website: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/405427/6 (scroll more than halfway down)

    ***Cardomain Site***
  • bleakdragonmage
    bleakdragonmage
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    • 2093

    #3
    you could get some prosports..they're a lot cheaper..


    1988 570zx SS Edition


    Originally posted by Neil86t
    Just get a slick paint job like mine and its all good. I had a girl that said she wanted to lick my car. She ended up licking my sack…end of story. Bitch ain't gonna lick my car.
  • Gregmatic
    Gregmatic
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    • 2193

    #4
    I've got a great deal for you! I just ordered some Prosports for my new gauge setup in a 52mm size. They're intended for the center cluster in the stock location. After I got them I realized that the size is closer to a 60mm so I ordered those as well. They are the correct amber color to match our dashes and only removed from the package for a test fit. Here is what I've got:

    Electric boost gauge, 52mm
    Electric oil pressure gauge, 52mm

    The company I ordered them from are kind of being difficult about the return ( Deft Racing, buy at your own risk) and I'd rather lose $20 on the price than call and get annoyed again. I bought the 2 for $120 shipped, I'll sell them for $100 shipped to your door. Pics will be up in a few minutes.

  • 85NA2T
    85NA2T
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    • 1111

    #5
    joeyfeets wrote: My water gauge is invaluable. I have a mechanical boost gauge. You're on the right path by getting a boost gauge, I do admit it would have been easier to run an electric gauge though. Running a vac line is a little harder than a signal line. My vac line has held up for a few years and not melted or anything, & the gauge seems reliable, so mechanical is a good bet if you want to save $$$. I have some pics and words about my a-pillar wetup on my website: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/405427/6 (scroll more than halfway down)
    Does that pillar pod replace the whole A-pillar?What brand and where did you get it?
    "If your car cant do a burnout from a 60mph rolling start, then your engine needs more work."

    "Nitrous doesn't blow up motors; Idiots with nitrous blow up motors."

    Shooting for 500whp
  • bleakdragonmage
    bleakdragonmage
    Senior Member
    • 2093

    #6
    just get the electric one…the prosport electric is only like 20$ or so more than the mechanical…i have Water, Electric, and Oil, i just havent put them on my car cuz i dont know where i want to put them…i dont really like the A pillar mount because i dont like shit obstructing my view


    1988 570zx SS Edition


    Originally posted by Neil86t
    Just get a slick paint job like mine and its all good. I had a girl that said she wanted to lick my car. She ended up licking my sack…end of story. Bitch ain't gonna lick my car.
  • Z_Karma
    Z_Karma
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    • 3318

    #7
    I can vouch for the Prosports too.
    I have:
    Elec Oil Press
    Mech Boost
    Analog O2*
    Lo-tek 3 gauge pod.

    They are sometimes hard to see in the daytime, but frickin cool at night.
    I've had lots of comments on them. The blue back light is the shade of
    blue I'm matching the rest of the dash lights too.

    The A pillar triple gaugepod screws onto your existing pillar trim piece. I wasn't thrilled
    with this idea so i found the same color trim piece from a junkyard Z and used that one.
    I also painted the black pod to match the tan interior.

    One thing i thought i was being clever with on the install, backfired.
    The fit of the plastic gaugepod was less than fantastic so i used a heatgun
    to carefully roll/form the edges and make it fit better. I turned out really well…
    until summer. The heat of the direct sunlight and a baking interior undid any
    forming of the pod. So i now have a gap that is visible from the outside looking in.
    I'm not sure if i wanna glue it or not.


    *no its not as accurate as a wideband, but i can tell by the average of the needle
    swing when its running stoich and when it hits a lean/rich surge.

    I think i have pics on my home PC that i can update this post if you are interested.


    84 AE/Shiro #683/Shiro #820/84 Turbo
  • TearingRaven
    TearingRaven
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    • 2572

    #8
    Can someone explain the advantage/disadvantage of mech/elec. boost gauges?

    1985 Nissan 300ZX 2+2- My first Z, back in the family
    1987 Nissan 300ZX Turbo RIP 4/87 - 4/28/2011
    Under Construction: 1986 Nissan 300ZX NA2T Slicktop
    Originally posted by Tempestas
    Well, one of the t-tops wasn't latched real well… God only knows where that t-top flew off to at 150+ mph. Didn't scratch the car or anything, just a boom and it was gone. I sure as hell didn't stop to see where it went. I didn't see any stories on the news… so that's a plus.
  • OK85ZX
    OK85ZX
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    • 1690

    #9
    TearingRaven wrote: Can someone explain the advantage/disadvantage of mech/elec. boost gauges?
    Electric boost gauges will have a sender unit that you place inside the engine bay. It's usually placed very near the source you're useing. The advantages will be a slightly faster response by the gauge, and also less chance of something happening to the vac hose, like being pinched etc.. With a mechanical gauge, you run the boost source line all the way from the source to the gauge which could be 3+ feet. With an electric, it is generally less than 1'.

    To be honest, having both, it's really not a huge deal either way. The electronic is usually just alot more clean/ease of an install, which is worth the extra few $$ to me.
    1985 NA2T(now RB) * 1988 SS x2 * 1984 AE x3 * 2006 350Z
  • Z_Karma
    Z_Karma
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    • 3318

    #10
    Tastes Great/Less Filling

    Also with an electrical unit, you have another failure point in the
    sender unit. IMHO, i'd rather a replace a few cents worth of polyethylene
    tube than having to replace a sender unit. I wouldn't do that on the oil
    pressure gauge though, cost outweighs safety there. Fishing the tube thru
    the firewall wasn't that difficult, i drilled a hole next to where the hood release
    cable passes thru the firewall and ran my wires/tube thru there. I've got tube
    for my gauge and boost controller going thru it and have no probs with crimped
    hose. As long as you are mindful of where you route your wire/hoses and don't try to
    zip tie them to the exhaust manifold or anything, you should be fine.


    84 AE/Shiro #683/Shiro #820/84 Turbo
  • OK85ZX
    OK85ZX
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    • 1690

    #11
    It's up to the buyer, but I trust an eletric sending unit that is less complex than a relay more than i trust a 3-4' run of vacuum hose that is constantly going back and fourth between vacuum and pressure.

    Also, why did you have to use the stock trim piece for your lotek pod install? The few installs I've seen people have completely replaced the stock trim piece and it worked just fine.
    1985 NA2T(now RB) * 1988 SS x2 * 1984 AE x3 * 2006 350Z
  • Z_Karma
    Z_Karma
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    • 3318

    #12
    If you use Polyethylene tubing, it will take the pressure fluctuations with no
    problems. I've ran lengths of it at ~100PSI of 40C water and, Nitrogen at my
    old job and never had any failures. Failures usually happened where someone
    couldn't figure out how to swage a fitting properly. I'd consider a sender if the
    vac source was somewhere closer to the exhaust, but mine comes off the back
    of the plenum behind the TB. Its also shielded in with the wire routing.

    The Lotek pod from gaugepods.com is a molded plastic cover that is held to the
    stock A pillar trim piece with 2 flathead screws. Unless you use longer screws
    and attach it directly to the body sheetmetal, it is meant to attach to the
    A pillar trim piece. At one time I thought it was a replacement for the trim piece
    too, until someone documented their install over on z31.com a few years ago.


    84 AE/Shiro #683/Shiro #820/84 Turbo
  • joeyfeets
    joeyfeets
    Senior Member
    • 117

    #13
    [quote]85NA2T wrote:
    Originally posted by joeyfeets
    I have some pics and words about my a-pillar wetup on my website: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/405427/6 (scroll more than halfway down)
    Does that pillar pod replace the whole A-pillar?What brand and where did you get it?
    Its the same LoTek that everyone else buys. I agree with OK85ZX and say I ditched my stock a-pillar (kept it for awhile but finally lost it in a move) and totally replaced it with the Lotek. It fits snug and screws into stock location. Plus, with the big @$$ lines for the mech boost and stock t-top drain hose, there isn't much room back there.

    As far as obstruction goes, I don't notice any at all. Getting in & out of the car, sometimes I hit it though. :-(

    My install is ok, but if you're careful, it can line up really nice. All non-z31 guys Ive met don't notice its not a stock A-pillar. My interior is black to match.

    ***Cardomain Site***
  • Z_Karma
    Z_Karma
    Administrator
    • 3318

    #14
    Well slap my @ss and call me susan!
    I, being susan, stand corrected.
    Interesting…

    Well, i can vouch that it works as a cover to the stock A pillar trim piece. :-)
    It wasn't too difficult to run the wires and vac line, but i can see that if you
    were to use just the lotek, it would have been much much easier.

    edit:

    Here is some pics with my old autometer gauges installed:






    Maybe i'll try it without the stock trim piece, it should make it sit more flush
    at the top.


    84 AE/Shiro #683/Shiro #820/84 Turbo