Swapping a VLSD into your Z31

  • james
    james
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    #31
    good information in this topic

    for me so far Z32 NA has worked perfectly for Making the axles outlined in method 5

    ( for my 85 T i am expecting to have to weld the inner cv race from the diff side further in to make the axles short enough to be used without changing the companion flange )

    I am yet to put the VLSD carrier into the longnose R200 & hope to provide a more definite drawing of where the grooves need to be cut on the diff side 5 bolt output flanges. and how far the need to be shortened.

    my question > has anybody used the Short nose R200 finned cover on the Long nose diff housing ? I don't have my long nose diff removed from the car as yet to find out.

    Is there any benefit to using the finned cover > surely diff cooling would be better than the normal Z31 diff cover ?
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  • Racinjitter
    Racinjitter
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    • 3128

    #32
    james wrote: my question > has anybody used the Short nose R200 finned cover on the Long nose diff housing ? I don't have my long nose diff removed from the car as yet to find out.Yes, it will require a custom mount as the diff cover mount bolts are in a different location, however the cover to housing bolt locations are the same.

    james wrote:
    Is there any benefit to using the finned cover > surely diff cooling would be better than the normal Z31 diff cover ?
    The main difference is cooling and extra fluid for cooling.
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  • james
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    • 978

    #33
    perfect thanks Racinjitter
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  • PurePontiacKid
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    #34
    I'm almost done with this swap, and I have a question concerning the axles:

    I'm going with the tri-BDO axles, and I was wondering if I should use the spring that goes inside the stock outer tripod CV or just leave it out?
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  • Bremsen
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    #35
    Mike_GruiZinga wrote: The swap consists of installing your Z31 ring gear onto the VLSD carrier and then installing the VLSD carrier into your differential housing.
    OK, this may be a stupid question but I don't want to guess. Is the pinion gear on the R200V adaptable at all to the long-nose housing? Just wondering if there is the option to use the 3:91 r/p. I know the 88/89 NA had a 3:91 (and I'm kicking myself for not grabbing it at the pap when I had the chance) but was wondering if this might be an option as well. I can't quite tell from the one pinion picture I found.
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  • ShamWow
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    • 1905

    #36
    ^^ I think you need to use the spring.

    ^The shortnose R&P will not swap into the longnose. You have to use a gearset for the longnose diff.
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  • Careless
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    #37
    Mike_GruiZinga wrote: ^^ I think you need to use the spring.

    ^The shortnose R&P will not swap into the longnose. You have to use a gearset for the longnose diff.
    can't you use the Pinion from the long nose and the Ring from the short-nose?
  • 85NA2T
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    #38
    I don't think so.I don't think the teeth would mesh properly? Meh Idk
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  • Bremsen
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    #39
    Mike_GruiZinga wrote: The shortnose R&P will not swap into the longnose. You have to use a gearset for the longnose diff.
    That's kinda what I figured, Thanks!!
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  • Racinjitter
    Racinjitter
    Z Force Commander
    • 3128

    #40
    [quote]Careless wrote:
    Originally posted by Mike_GruiZinga
    ^^ I think you need to use the spring.

    ^The shortnose R&P will not swap into the longnose. You have to use a gearset for the longnose diff.
    can't you use the Pinion from the long nose and the Ring from the short-nose?
    You dont want an unmatched ring and pinion set… Will be nothing but issues.
    Shiro Special # 981 Being assembled in my spare time Chromoly acquired!
    Originally posted by BoostedMamma
    Heads up makes teh panties drop. BUT I don't have a penis OR a fast car, so I guess my opinion doesn't count.
  • 88sinZ
    88sinZ
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    • 2019

    #41
    [quote]Racinjitter wrote:
    Originally posted by Careless
    can't you use the Pinion from the long nose and the Ring from the short-nose?You dont want an unmatched ring and pinion set… Will be nothing but issues.
    To elaborate, the bite of the gears over many Mi/Km wears a seat in the gear teeth. Mismatching sets that have been used conflicts with the pattern and wears quickly.

    New set? maybe a possibility…
  • Careless
    Careless
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    #42
    ok, so since you can buy the Ring from Nissan, and you can buy the Pinion from nissan (and they don't come matched)… Shouldn't be buying a new long nose ring, and buying a new long nose pinion work much the same as they're unused so they will wear into eachother anyways?
  • Racinjitter
    Racinjitter
    Z Force Commander
    • 3128

    #43
    If they are the same exact pitch, depth, taper and twist… They might work. Long nose will work with long nose parts.
    Shiro Special # 981 Being assembled in my spare time Chromoly acquired!
    Originally posted by BoostedMamma
    Heads up makes teh panties drop. BUT I don't have a penis OR a fast car, so I guess my opinion doesn't count.
  • Careless
    Careless
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    #44
    Racinjitter wrote: If they are the same exact pitch, depth, taper and twist… They might work. Long nose will work with long nose parts.
    sorry, i meant new long nose ring, and new short nose pinion.
    I've seen them sold separately and they can be had separately from Nissan.

    A driveline shop with the proper marking and setting tools should be able to tell if they're compatible with the proper paint marking technique, shouldn't they?
  • Gregmatic
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    #45
    I didn't think they were still available.