Hit a mental block wiring in fuel pump
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88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
Hit a mental block wiring in fuel pump
Relay info: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0…?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ECU signal is ~5.6v, all good grounds, all good power/
Relay is not activating the coil. I ordered it thinking the ECU signal would be enough to kick it over.... am i wrong? 6v relays are uncommon and unaval. locally.
I really don't want to put the pump on a switch, the safety of the ECU control is preferred.
Any advice is appreciated (dumbed down diagram as much as i could) is it amperage related? -
88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
Continued headache's
Pump primes.
44PSI. as priming engine will start, pressure bleeds off… OK so i need to put in a check valve (thanks fuelab for making integrated valves an after thought)
If start is attempted after Pump stops. no start
Jump relay, provide constant power.
Engine will start and sputter out in 2-4 seconds.
Good crank signal. Relay will not remain activated during cranking as FSM states.
WTF, pls help -
shromySenior Member
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no need for a check valve, thats the pumps job. from the sounds of it the pump is not staying on after start and you need to figure out why. make sure your relay stays active after start etc. what happens to fuel pressure with the relay jumped and car runningHmmm, Whats next?
Full Size Bronco, smashing shit.
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88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
The pump does not activate during cranking, so it's not receiving fuel pressure
I did look at my tune this morning and found some bad values. After correcting those values, and jumping the fuel pump it will run and idle.
It however is not receiving signal to activate the pump during cranking. Even if i attempt to start during priming, the moment i attempt to start power is cut to the pump.
I have it wired in OEM configuration. With 14V direct to pump.Last edited by 88sinZ; 06-20-2016, 10:58 AM. -
shromySenior Member
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then you need to check your relay and see where the signal lose is coming from. seems to be the ecu side from the sounds of it. you should be using the ecu to ground the coil off pin 20 from the looks of the second diagram.Hmmm, Whats next?
Full Size Bronco, smashing shit.
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88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
I metered per EFEC-94 and 95, everything checks out. good power, good continuity, 0 resistance.
Each day just puts me further behind - and i really, really, really don't want to put this on some haggard switch -
88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
well, i feel stupid.
I wasn't aware the relay was tucked into the wall just behind the passenger seat.
Will rewire and check back -
88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
I'm convinced no one in the FAQ page actually tried their wiring because none of them fucking work.
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shromySenior Member
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it cant check out good. if you jump the relay the car is fine, so the relay is being shut down after start. you need to recheck everything under the conditions it fails. the only input from the ecu you should be using is the ground switch at pin 20. that or the ecu has failed. both 12v straight from batt, ground from pump straight trough the switch side to a good chassis ground, coil ground from relay to the ecu. you could get the coil 12v from original pump 12v as well, pump needs to come straight off the battery. all else fails, undo whatever you got going and rewire to oe to get it going.Hmmm, Whats next?
Full Size Bronco, smashing shit.
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88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
Gave up yesterday and put it on a switch like some sort of third world degenerate.
Took a leave from work so I've only got about 3mo to get this done. October is 10yrs this has been in the works, i'll quit if it goes beyond that -
shromySenior Member
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3 months should be plenty to rebuild the whole car,lol.Hmmm, Whats next?
Full Size Bronco, smashing shit.
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88sinZSenior Member
- 2019
Yeah I ran her some tonight besides running great, the oil pan still has that little leak. So I'll be addressing that next week when the support bar arrives. Hoping it's not rear main related to avoid pulling the transmission. It's coming from the pan side so I'm 88% sure it's the gasket… years back I used both rtv and the rubber seal, now I'm paying for that junk seal. -
88sinZSenior Member
- 2019