Dual Projector Headlight Write up/How to

  • Evil Twerp
    Evil Twerp
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    Dual Projector Headlight Write up/How to

    This How To guide is for Z31 owners who are wanting a much better light output.
    Pros:
    -better visibility
    -more aerodynamic at night
    -lighter weight
    Cons:
    -no more pop up lights
    Different look from front view
    I made this based off the 87-89 kouki headlights. Should work on the 84-86 Zenki headlights as well. Doing this mod is entirely up to you. What you do to your car is your own doing. I am not to blame for anything that happens to your Z. All I did was post a write up. You did the rest.

    Tools I used:
    -Wire cutter/stripper combo
    -heavy duty pliers
    -Phillips screwdriver
    -torx screwdrivers
    -cut off wheel/ high power dremel
    -angle grinder
    -welder
    -propane torch
    -face shield
    -wrenches
    -ratchets
    -tape measure
    -drill
    -multiple drill bits
    -big 'O' clamps, the adjustable ones
    -vice grips

    Consumable items
    -junkyard headlight projectors
    -80 grit sandpaper
    -paint of your choice
    -seam sealer
    -panel bond
    -red and grey scotchbrite pad
    -razor blades
    -15x 6"x1/4" bolts
    -30x 1/4" washers
    -45x 1/4" nuts
    -2x 5"x1/2" bolt
    -8x 1/2" washer
    -6x 1/2" nut
    -wire connectors
    -double sided adhesion strip
    -good flat hood from junkyard
    -1/8" -1/4" plastic sheets

    Gather all materials. Look for cars at the local junkyard that have projectors. It doesn't matter how beat up the headlights are, so long as the projectors are in tact. For the hood, it may be cheaper to get a sheet of metal rather than a straight hood, so that's your call. For the plastic, see if your local plastic manufacturer has some spare pieces, or drops.

    After you have the materials, open up the headlight(s), I found taking some pliers and destroying the back of them was the easiest way to get them. Try your best to get matching headlights, or at least headlights with the same output or color.



    Now that you have collected all your projectors, make sure the work. Try it on your car battery. This will not only show you the light pattern, color, brightness output, but show you which wires are positive and negative.

    http://imgur.com/sTMwQpP

    Using your factory headlight cover, use some tape and make a perimeter on your headlight. It has to be inside the headlight otherwise the cover will not fit on top. Take your tape measure/yard stick and measure all four sides of the tape perimeter, like in the above picture.

    http://imgur.com/jmN8cQl
    http://imgur.com/qDlhBh2

    When you have the perimeter made so it will fit inside the factory headlight assembly, very careful transfer that onto your metal. This will be the base. After cutting as straight as possible along the perimeter, take your base plates and transfer them onto your plastic. Try and conserve as much plastic as possible, but still use what you need to. Now take your base and drill a 1/2" hole in the center. Or make three holes that are spaced apart. Those will be for your mounting bolts. The more holes you drill will make aiming easier. It will, however, might be problematic when mounting the ballast(s). Cut some rectangles, or holes so the ballasts can mount without hitting anything. It will also make mounting to the car a little more difficult.

    http://imgur.com/jLB0dck

    For the sides, you want them to be the same length as the corresponding sides. The overall height, needs to be about 5". After marking your plastic, test your projectors to make sure it fits inside the pre-cut piece. If it doesn't, check your measurements again, and adjust where needed. If it's fine, connect the dots and cut. Try to keep the cutting straight. It doesn't have to be perfect, since the straighter edge will be the top.


    http://imgur.com/hJ8rKoV

    DO NOT FORGET: LABEL EVERYTHING. This will make assembly and installation way less confusing. If you think it has enough labels, then label it more. Keep the corresponding pieces together.

    Take some chunks of crap cardboard and cut holes large enough for the projector glass to fit through it. Chose holes that seem worthy to mount, and mark the cardboard so you can transfer it.

    http://imgur.com/DETFZdv

    Take your adjustable 'O' clamp and clamp it around the metal part of the projector, just below the glass. Carefully pull it off. Take this outline and transfer it to the front pieces of plastic. Try to make them nice and evenly spread.
    Bring them a little closer to the top, as well. This way half the light doesn't get sucked into bumper. After you have the outline drawn on, cut the holes out. I ended up heating a small screwdriver and used that to cut it. An adjustable hole saw would work as well. Take your front pieces and line them up with the corresponding back pieces. The inside needs to be even, the outside can't. If the outside is even, then they are now made for the other side of the car.




    Take the corresponding projectors and test fit them in the holes. If need be, take your 80 grit sandpaper and smooth up the inside of the holes so the projectors fit better. They need to have a little room so they can be adjusted as needed. It will take a while before you see any fitment improvement, but just keep trying until they fit.

    http://imgur.com/3Na2kUX
    http://imgur.com/FLutBF9

    Take the back pieces of plastic and the corresponding cardboard pieces you used to make designated adjusting holes. Mark those holes onto the plastic. When you think they are correct, drill them with a slightly larger than 1/4" drill bit.




    Now measure all 4 sides of both assembles from the top to bottom. Measure out 4 1/2". Connect the dots, and all you're going to do is put a groove in it. This has to be straight. The straighter, the better. This groove will be an indention so the metal base can fit in it. Take your angle grinder and grind all four sides, both top and bottom, of the metal. Grind all the way until you find bare metal. Take your 80 grit sandpaper and sand the entire inside of each plastic panel. Clean off all the panels so that they are free of dirt and oil. This will make the panel bond and seam sealer stick and not cause any problems.




    Take some tape and tape your corners so that the panels stay together during the gluing process. After they are all nice and snug together, take your panel bond(automotive stores should carry it, if not ask a reputable body shop if you can have some) and glue all the inside edges. Make sure there are NO GAPS OR HOLES in the glue. Let the assembly sit overnight in a room temperature environment.




    After the panel bond is nice and dry, take the seam sealer and seam seal all around the panel bond. This will ensure that water and outside debris do not enter. After the seam sealer dries, flip it over and panel bond the bottom. Now it should be air tight, if it had a top. Let it sit again until the panel bond is dry. When that's dry, it is ready for paint.

    http://imgur.com/5l67F4C


    After the paint dries, assemble the projectors, mounting bolts, and ballasts. Now its time to install!




    Completely disassemble the front end. After the bumper, fog lights, headlights are out of the way, take your new headlights and test fit them in the existing area for headlights. Find the spot that seems most comfortable for the new headlights. Double check the fitment with the help of your headlight covers. Form good gaps between the headlight cover and fender. If the new headlight assembly touches on of the sides, adjust it so it is in the middle. Mark where the mounting point(s) are with a sharpie. Take your 1/2" or slightly larger drill bit and drill a hole where you marked. Now take a hammer, and if the bottom of the headlight bucket need to be straight, hammer it until it becomes straight. The driver side needs a little hammering from the inside, where the factory gave some room for the intake. You'll notice it has a bump on the left side of the drivers headlight bucket. See it? Hammer that out.




    With the old headlight assembly, mark two places where you will need to cut. The very back of the assembly. The top and front ended up being excessive cuts, so ignore those. Now for the welder. Notice how the back of the headlight has the bolts to mount it to the car? You need that piece. And the two side pieces that keep the headlight cover in place? You need those as well. So grab your welder, and very carefully, without welding any other metal, weld a bridge between those three pieces. Make them nice and thick welds, with multiple bridges, if need be. Now take a 10mm wrench or socket and un bolt the two side pieces from the main assembly. Now take a 12mm and 17mm wrench or socket, and undo the big bolt that is right where you welded those bridges. Ta da! You now have the complete headlight cover bracket.

    http://imgur.com/gPvkhgc

    http://imgur.com/WuY2PhB
    http://imgur.com/njp9cIc
    With your front bumper, you'll notice a little lip as shown above. Grind that off until it is flat.
    http://imgur.com/CejwgVk

    Wire them up, and aim them to your liking.
    http://imgur.com/D1DN5Uo

    Enjoy your new headlights!
  • drb5721
    drb5721
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    #2
    I like this idea since I don't use the headlights in the up position. This is something you could possibly sell if you had the time. Maybe a little more information as to how ling you have been running them and if you have run into any problems. If you were to want to make them to sell I would probably be interested in a set as I dont really have the time to do all of this.
  • 862sik
    862sik
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    #3
    Im glad someone is attempting to do what I wanted to do. But I don't think there is any vision with the headlights down unless you mounted the projector much higher. Can you post a picture of the headlight in the down position?

    I don't know if you saw my thread, but I did more of a direct plug and play with a single projector. Just haven't had the time to work on a dual projector setup. I like your RAW way of doing it, lol. Seriously, good job!
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  • Evil Twerp
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    #4
    I've only been running them for a couple days. I forget to include the 10amp headlight fuse needs to be replaced with a 20-30amp fuse. I have many projects to do, so I'm too busy to just do headlights.

    With the headlights being permanently down, it still gives much more light than the factory headlights, and I haven't aimed mine properly yet. I'll take a pov picture soon.
  • joshers21
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    #5
    I like the looks of the dual projectors. I can't wait to see the light output these offer.
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  • Evil Twerp
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    #6
    In reply to AZ: I have not upgraded the wiring after replacing the 10amp fuse with a 20amp fuse.
    Adjusting and aiming them can be a pain, since the projector housing can get super hot. The plastic is can handle a good amount of heat before melting, in case you were wondering. Took me an hour and half, most of which i thought I was aiming them right until told otherwise.
    I took the headlight cover off, adjusted as necessary, test fit the headlight cover to see where i was at currently, and repeat. Did one set at a time until they were all even.

    Problem #2 also occured while i was aiming them. The car was on, dual maxima e-fans were on, had all 4 projectors on. Had all that going on the factory alternator. With the two main projectors on, idle voltage stayed current, headlights emitted the same light output, fans didn't waver. After switching on the other two headlights to accommodate the main headlights, that's when problems started to occur. It took about 15 minutes before the ballasts started losing energy. Only one HID would work at a time. Couldn't figure it out. Checked the fuses, both were fine. The replaced 20amp fuse was warm. Turned the e-fans off, and all headlights stayed on and didn't miss a beat.
    Turned them off, let the car idle for a few seconds, then turned it off. Walked away for say, 5 minutes, came back and the car was dead. Seemed like the ballasts drained the battery to replace the lost energy. Put it on a car charger, and it started right up after charging for 20 minutes.

    Must upgrade alternator to accommodate the heavy load.
  • Evil Twerp
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    #7
    http://imgur.com/3GX4kY2
    With everything off.

    http://imgur.com/wWTc9TB
    With only main headlights on.

    http://imgur.com/QIipAVp
    With main and secondary headlights on.
  • 862sik
    862sik
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    #8
    You should be running a relay system with the ballasts. Personally id run individual relay setups for both pairs.

    Can you give us a picture with the bumper on, and the headlights off? Id like to see how high the projectors sit.

    The best way to get your aim correct is to setup a jig. This way you only have to deal with height in the car…rotational will be done on the bench.
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  • les_joey_paul
    les_joey_paul
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    #9
    Yeah you can utilize the stock wiring to trigger relays then run a lower gauge wire with the 30 a fuses inline.
    http://z31performance.com/showthread…2-2-(-now-NA2T
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  • joshers21
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    #10
    Your pictures look good. How is the light while driving compared to the stock lights? Will you be upgrading the alternator?
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  • Evil Twerp
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    #11
    I'll look into the relay system. As of now, the stock headlight relays are working fine.

    I do not have a picture of that, I will soon. However, where the very front of the headlight cover is, while in the down position, is where the top of the box is. Then it just levels off.

    I have them all set up correctly, just time consuming. There are better ways of adjusting them, but I gave myself a due date, so I didn't ponder easier ways. Just used what I had.

    Driving with just the main headlights on is a drastic improvement, at least to me. With the secondary on, its that much brighter.

    Will do an alternator swap. I have a feeling that a bigger alternator will make the HIDs reach their full potential.
  • 862sik
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    #12
    The ballasts brightness itself is not determined by the voltage input (to a point). The ballasts will create the power needed to turn on, so basically anything around 12v it will get full power. If you been around the HID game (like me) you will come to find that there are better ballasts that are SO MUCH BRIGHTER than cheap aftermarket ballasts. Now I run OEM ballasts just for the durability and the speed in which they turn on. They are also much brighter than my other sets of ballasts.

    The alternator will help your whole cars systems, but each ballast will probably pull about 8amps when its warmed up. This is why a relay is needed, the factory wiring cant support the HUGE load when they are first turned on(easily 30 amps on startup for cheap ballasts). Eventually the wiring will heat up and start causing resistance. If your near Northern California, I have a 90a alternator for you…brand new. I upgraded to a quest alternator at 120a.

    You said that in the down position is the top of the box....now im really curious on how much the projector shows when the lights are off.
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  • PulseCode
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    #13
    Great work!

    I have been wanting to do something like this for a long time. Thank You for taking the time to post up everything.
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  • Evil Twerp
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    #14
    Finally got around to get the picture. They are fixed, so you see them all the time. http://imgur.com/kxSZffA

    I've messed with them for a while now, so I think I'm at a better understanding with them.
    The upgraded alternator is needed if you're idling for about 10 minutes straight. That way the ballasts don't drain the battery to fill up after the car has been turned off.

    The factory wiring has been holding up quite well. I've compared them to the cars in which I took the projectors from, they are of the same brightness. A relay kit would indeed help their brightness, as well as protecting the factory wiring.