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De-powered rack for drifting.

  • 84Zed31
    84Zed31
    Senior Member
    • 707

    De-powered rack for drifting.

    Alright, so I blew my power steering rack a year and a half ago during an event and I have another event coming up end of next month. I de-powered the rack and the steering felt.. a little better.. I am going to install the knuckles from mikeP soon, and I was wondering if its better to drift with another power rack or just keep this de-powered rack.

    Im currently on 205 tires, and I know that some of you have no problems with wider and stickier tires than mine for autocross. This question probably has been answered before, but whoever has drifted with de-powered vs. powered, can you chime in?

    "Let's play Battleship! There's enough Z's for that.."
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  • 84Zed31
    84Zed31
    Senior Member
    • 707

    #2
    Also I couldnt get much negative camber with my Stances, I might get kouki control arms to add more negative, but is there any other way to get more than -1.5 degrees? Im shooting for around -2.25 degrees. Would raising the height a little allow for more negative?

    "Let's play Battleship! There's enough Z's for that.."
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  • G-E
    G-E
    Junior Member
    • 6320

    #3
    http://z31performance.com/showthread…nter-adjusters!
  • BSRJIRONMAN
    BSRJIRONMAN
    Senior Member
    • 303

    #4
    I have drifted in a car without an operational power steering system, and I don't recommend it. Well, if you value the functionality of your hands/fingers, that is. Transitions and line adjustments were scary. When that wheel starts to spin, you don't want your hands anywhere near it, haha.



    "…i think bov needs oil, its not closing fast enough so the car dies when you come off of boost…" -Automotive Genius
  • 84Zed31
    84Zed31
    Senior Member
    • 707

    #5
    So what youre saying is that I need gauntlets to drift. Lol.

    "Let's play Battleship! There's enough Z's for that.."
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  • millsaps
    millsaps
    Senior Member
    • 133

    #6
    drifting without power steering is stupid. fingers and arms will be beat up and protentially broken.
  • Switchback Motions
    Switchback Motions
    Senior Member
    • 705

    #7
    Mad Mike's Madbull RX7 runs a manual rack, and he does backwards entries. It all comes down to preference and practice.
  • Butter
    Butter
    Senior Member
    • 1519

    #8
    …and tire size, wheel offset, caster and camber, leverage of the steering linkage, knuckle ratio, rack ratio, weight over the front axle, and the course layout.

    You try to drive USAIR in a Z31 with no power steering, and you will be sitting in the pits wondering why you can't do very well. I want to upgrade to the kouki one.
    http://youtu.be/L-VtlKqrPbk?t=1m47s[/video]]
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  • Careless
    Careless
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    • 13279

    #9
    upgrade to kouki ps?
    hmmm.... is there a big difference in the rack or the pump?
  • Big Slappy Z
    Big Slappy Z
    Senior Member
    • 237

    #10
    http://www.redz31.net/pages/powersteering.html

    Supposedly the pump is different in that it's driven by a ribbed belt instead of a v belt. Don't know about the rack

    That link says that you can put a newer PS pump on an old motor, but not the other way around. I have an old style PS pump on my 88T motor (ribbed crank pulley) and it works fine....wut
  • 84Zed31
    84Zed31
    Senior Member
    • 707

    #11
    Yeah ive decided to order a rack (..and take my de-powered as a core..). Ill stick with the zenki pump for now.

    Thanks for the advice guys, ill update my build thread soon.

    "Let's play Battleship! There's enough Z's for that.."
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