Rear Camber Modification Write Up + Photo

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    #61
    are you going to be selling these or is this a 1 off for your car.
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    300cars wrote: are you going to be selling these or is this a 1 off for your car.
    I might. I have one other set I have made for one other person
    on this board. Lets wait until he has completed his installation and fully tested
    the concept.

    The parts are not cheap and have to be machined by a local machine shop.
    If I got five or more orders I would consider it.

    The end user will have some welding and cutting to do.
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    Gary, those bolts and plates aren't too expensive to machine out as there are hex stock available which machine shops can use to create bolts. I got a VERY low quote on those bolts because I know of a friend's father who does machine work. A few Socal Club-S12 members, including myself, are trying to replicate this kit based on your designs, BUT there has been a lot of conflicts as to how they can better the design, make it bolt in, or create an entirely better kit. Long story short, creating these kits would be VERY cheap IF we put the machining order together aside from the conflicts. I don't know if making an interest thread would help or if I just need to wait until everyone can agree on this current design. PM me if you want more details on my machining quotes and info.
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    If someone else wants to make the parts, that's great. I have no real interest in supplying them.
    It would be interesting to see the other ideas. I paid more than $150 for all the parts for one
    complete set. It would be great if someone can do it cheaper and with a simpler design.
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    #65
    Done except for the final coat of gloss black top coat.















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    #66
    Would it be asking too much for a mod or the author to make a separate thread w/o all the extraneous posts and input or has this already been done? There are 8 pages (so far) to wade through here.
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    edit: Okay…I'm a fuktard…the link to the page was so big I missed it ops:
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    Looks simply amazing. It should have come like this from the factory.

    What are the nuts for on the arm itself by the poly bushings? Some type of adjustment?
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    85z31t88 wrote: What are the nuts for on the arm itself by the poly bushings? Some type of adjustment?
    Hopefully this drawing will clarify the individual parts.

    The 10-32 hex socket set screws with matching lock nut are to keep the lower arm bearing journals from
    sliding back and forth on bearing retainers. The soft self lubricating polyurethane grease seals are too
    soft to prevent movement of the lower arm. They are only there to keep water and dirt out and grease
    in.

    There are five set screws per journals. Two for each set of bearing retainers (2retainers/bearing) and
    one for the spherical bearing. Although the drawing shows the set screws opposite each other, in reality
    they are about 30° apart when measured from the center of the pin.

    There is one Zerk grease fitting per bearing.

  • DeleriousZ
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    #69
    nom nom nom.


    what kind of grease would be used in this setup? not the poly grease i'd assume…

    any idea on timeframe of this? i'm getting antsy to put my subframe back together!

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    DeleriousZ wrote:

    What kind of grease would be used in this setup? not the poly grease I'd assume…

    Lubrimatic/Stant/Truflate 11404 Marine Wheel Bearing Grease

    Any idea on time frame of this? I'm getting antsy to put my subframe back together!
    I'm not really interested in doing this on a one order at a time. I have a local machine shop do
    the work and it would be cheaper if there was a group buy. A group buy of five or more would
    be the least I would consider at a time.

    CAUTION: If you are interested in this project, you should know: If you don't have the
    tools and expertise you will have to have someone qualified do the work for you. It is time
    consuming and requires precise measuring. It is expensive. AND I disavow any and all responsibility
    for the presumed benefits, workability, safety, accident or death as a result of buying and installing
    these parts on a car.

    In the next week I will post a total price for the parts I will supply as shown in the first 5 pictures
    below. You will have to buy the McMaster-Carr spherical bearings on your own.

    One set of adjuster plates that will need to be welded together and to the subframe


    Bearing retainer sleeves


    These are the pins that attach the lower arms to the subframe. They can be supplied
    color treated for a bit more rust resistance or plain. I am having mine chrome plated



    Fasteners & Zerk fittings, either in SS or plain, plus tap and drills



    Special soft self lubricating grease seals



    Complete set of instruction with photograph


    You will have to buy these on your own.
    http://www.mcmaster.com
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    #71
    Here is the break down on the parts costs. These are the actual costs
    I paid except for the shipping. Just the total costs for the machined parts are
    $498.50. My guess is that this is way beyond the reasonable for most people.

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    #72
    Good write up on everything. I am hoping some will benefit. You have this installed or know is someone has this installed yet to test it out?
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    #73
    Myself an CAG8OR went in together on the parts. He maybe starting his conversion this
    coming week end. Mine is done. The suspension will be installed this summer but the
    car won't be road worthy for another couple years.

    CAG8OR should know before then.
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    #74
    I will try my best to get this started this weekend, however no guarantees on that. I will take plenty of pictures along the way and keep everyone posted. I am sure this will take me a week or so to complete as I have to send out the rear cross member for welding. I don't have my welder any more. I then have to get it prepped and powder coated before re-installation. I have been waiting for this for soo long now, what is another couple weeks or so. Many thanks to Gary for completing this project! With any luck this will function as good as it looks!
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    #75
    OK. So here it is. The PDF below tells how I did it and the picture in this post
    give an overview of the results and parts required. I had a local (CA) machine
    shop make the parts for me. The cost was a little under $500.00.
    I don't offer these for sale. This was a 'one-off' project.
    If you choose to do this and want the "Self Lubricating Soft Bearing Poly Seals,"
    I will sell the set for $30.00.

    http://www.garymolitor.com/300zx/camber … mounts.pdf