Brake Upgrade Thread
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PurePontiacKidSenior Member
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Hey just a quick question and didn't want to start a whole new thread for it:
Will the late two piston calipers/brake setups clear 14" steel wheels?irony.cc
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Mitchd03Senior Member
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My stock brakes don't clear 14" steel wheels…
Well, rear ones don't, didn't actually try the fronts. (I forgot front brakes are smaller) -
michaelpSenior Member
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Mitchd03 wrote: How similar are 280zx brakes to an 84 n/a Z31's?
Looking at the images of brake upgrades offered by Arizona Z car for the 280zx, they share the same basic hub design on the front. Anyone got a 280zx and a 4 stud z31?
This is the image that has made me curious:
Further investigation appears that vented disk 4 runner 4 pot brake calipers and n/a z31 rotors work together on a s130, with a spacer between the hub and brake rotor… So the other way around must be true, just with a spacer on the caliper instead.
I think I'm on to something here.- VG30DET (HE341) 86 300ZX - 1982 280ZX Turbo - Headered NA 1986 300ZX 2+2 - 2000 Xterra - -
PurePontiacKidSenior Member
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do you mean spacing-wise (distance between the holes) or offset-wise (caliper centered on the hub)?irony.cc
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LoomisMember
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Whewww… so many different brake ideas going on around here! lol
I've read some talk of machining front hubs.. technically, I should be able to turn my 85T front hub into something useable for a slip on rotor… correct?
and since most of these posts are pretty old, and spread all over, its getting a little hard for to extract all this info into what I actually need… pardon my ingnorance!
What I "think" I've gathered, is that I can machine my hubs (87-89T is a little hard to find here in any so cal wrecking yard), and run a Z32 rotor and caliper, or even a 350z setup, and all I will have to do, is shim the correct caliper spacing and trim the rock guard (already running 17's and 1" spacers).
The rear is a little trickier though.. and since swapping the rear arms or subframe is more of a pita, than fabbing new caliper mounts, is there a prefered caliper for a stock 85T rotor?
If I have anything wrong, PLEASE enlighten me.
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michaelpSenior Member
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PurePontiacKid wrote: do you mean spacing-wise (distance between the holes) or offset-wise (caliper centered on the hub)?- VG30DET (HE341) 86 300ZX - 1982 280ZX Turbo - Headered NA 1986 300ZX 2+2 - 2000 Xterra - -
PurePontiacKidSenior Member
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Then that means Z31 calipers won't work on S130 strut tubes uin :soupir
oh, and something to think about, anyone try Infinity Q45 calipers? they're two-piston and are the wrong spacing for S130 struts, so maybe they'd fit on Z31's?irony.cc
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RacinjitterZ Force Commander
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^Yes, early (G50) q45 calipers bolt on. J30 calipers bolt on. Both are twin piston.Shiro Special # 981 Being assembled in my spare time Chromoly acquired!
Originally posted by BoostedMammaHeads up makes teh panties drop. BUT I don't have a penis OR a fast car, so I guess my opinion doesn't count. -
adamvann3Senior Member
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Darthpaul wrote: Hi guys, new poster here. This is the 350z brake rotor kit from SPL on my 87 turbo. The calipers required 7.5mm spacing to center. The brackets are for an S14. The Z32 brackets would require less spacing. The brake pads are above the edge of the rotor by about 3mm.
All that I really know is that there is a positive offset between the z31 and the above car where shims are needed and that the z32 has a lesser offset. I am just guessing on the s13 since they use z32 calipers as upgrades as well.
Any info would be appreciated. I am still trying to explore other braking kit options.86na - BlueZ
Shiro #366 - Kouki Monster
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Smn2k7Senior Member
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Just figured I'd add this, maybe it'll help someone in the future. I've heard of some people getting the z32 1 1/16 master cylinder with a flare behind the plug, while most have no flare and either have to install one or use a T.
I just got a CARDONE Select master cylinder for 1990 300zx Twin Turbo from Rockauto.com and there is a flare behind the center plug. i can't guarantee all of them are like this, but, hey, it's worth putting up I think.Originally posted by bronzemfpPassengers should be confined to the trunk/hatch area. properly secured and only given enough air to survive in a sedated state for the duration of the trip. -
DarthpaulMember
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Re: Re:
[quote]adamvann3 wrote:Originally posted by DarthpaulHi guys, new poster here. This is the 350z brake rotor kit from SPL on my 87 turbo. The calipers required 7.5mm spacing to center. The brackets are for an S14. The Z32 brackets would require less spacing. The brake pads are above the edge of the rotor by about 3mm.
Anyone have any information on the offset between the z31 to s13, s14 and z32
All that I really know is that there is a positive offset between the z31 and the above car where shims are needed and that the z32 has a lesser offset. I am just guessing on the s13 since they use z32 calipers as upgrades as well.
Any info would be appreciated. I am still trying to explore other braking kit options.
Someone(not my broke ass) needs to do the Concept Z 370z sport brake kit on a Z31....... -
adamvann3Senior Member
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Thought I would post this up since I looked into it heavy when researching a bbk to go with.
Z1's Brembo Brake kit for the s13
http://www.z1motorsports.com/240sx/prod … ts_id=4176
Simple bolt and go (with shimming of course).
Facts:
$698.00
Rotor -- 305mm in diameter only 22mm wide
Caliper -- Brand new brembo 4 pots
Now I never took the time to ask them about piston sizes ect… since the rotor width is weak sauce. If these were anything close to 30mm I would have probably gave them a shot. Z1 just mounted these on an s13 that sees street use and got favorable results. They have not yet been on the track but looking to do so soon.
Maybe someone will give them a shot.
86na - BlueZ
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Fuzzcheek1Member
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ZMIKEMAN wrote: Just a quick post to point some things out I found in my Z32 Swap (30mm Aluminum Calipers, OEM Z32 Rotors, Z32 SS Lines).
1. Early z31 dust shield won't work with the later model hubs
Maybe something was said about this and I probably missed it but the inner dia of the brake dust shields are to small for the later model hubs to work. You can bore this out or remove them, otherwise your bearings won't seat properly and you wouldnt want to drive it like this.
.....86' Turbo GLL -
RacinjitterZ Force Commander
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I can confirm that the 87-89 turbo hubs will rub on early spindles/brake dust shields. However it will not cause the bearing to not seat properly, it will rub. I simply removed my shields. Also if you upgrade to z32 brakes you will have to cut your dust shields to clear the calipers.Shiro Special # 981 Being assembled in my spare time Chromoly acquired!
Originally posted by BoostedMammaHeads up makes teh panties drop. BUT I don't have a penis OR a fast car, so I guess my opinion doesn't count. -
Neil86tSenior Member
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Racinjitter wrote: I can confirm that the 87-89 turbo hubs will rub on early spindles/brake dust shields. However it will not cause the bearing to not seat properly, it will rub. I simply removed my shields. Also if you upgrade to z32 brakes you will have to cut your dust shields to clear the calipers.Elitist Prick Black Z owner.
1986 300zx Turbo
2011 Ford F150 Super Crew 4x2 EcoBOOST
1985 Toyota 4Runner, locked, lifted, geared, uglied.