S13/S14/S15 Subframe Conversion Kit GB-STANCE MULTILINK!!

  • badboyz31
    badboyz31
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    the other guys made some sort of doohicky that fixes the problem, me I just left it the way it is, and if it binds it binds. I will probably find a spare set of uprights and cut the mount off and re-weld them later!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • K_Scheeringa
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    The Q45 rear subframe is too wide, it's actually wider then a tt Z32 subframe.
    Spooledup300z wrote: So you use a Q45 rear subframe? I thought z32/Q45 was to wide for the Z31.
    This is basically what I’m looking to do..
    Was going to use the Q45 knuckles, Z32 struts, and see if the Q45 rucas are usable as they are half moon.

    badboyz31 wrote:
    this is his setup, just like mine and a few others

    s13 subframe
    q45 diff
    1 q45 axle
    1 z32tt axle or skyline axle
    s13 diff cover
    j30 half moon rucas
    z32 or q45 uprights
    and a few other tad bits here and there
    Kevin
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    1986 NA 5sp - Bone stock, but in good shape
  • badboyz31
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    [quote]K_Scheeringa wrote: The Q45 rear subframe is too wide, it's actually wider then a tt Z32 subframe.
    Originally posted by Spooledup300z
    So you use a Q45 rear subframe? I thought z32/Q45 was to wide for the Z31.
    This is basically what I’m looking to do..
    Was going to use the Q45 knuckles, Z32 struts, and see if the Q45 rucas are usable as they are half moon.

    badboyz31 wrote:
    Originally posted by Spooledup300z
    this is his setup, just like mine and a few others

    s13 subframe
    q45 diff
    1 q45 axle
    1 z32tt axle or skyline axle
    s13 diff cover
    j30 half moon rucas
    z32 or q45 uprights
    and a few other tad bits here and there
    actually to be honest I think my rucas are from the q45 and not the j30!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • K_Scheeringa
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    [quote]badboyz31 wrote: [quote=K_Scheeringa]This is basically what I’m looking to do..
    Was going to use the Q45 knuckles, Z32 struts, and see if the Q45 rucas are usable as they are half moon.

    Originally posted by badboyz31
    this is his setup, just like mine and a few others

    s13 subframe
    q45 diff
    1 q45 axle
    1 z32tt axle or skyline axle
    s13 diff cover
    j30 half moon rucas
    z32 or q45 uprights
    and a few other tad bits here and there
    actually to be honest I think my rucas are from the q45 and not the j30!
    Thats good to hear.. I'm hoping to use most of the arms from the Q45 as the S13 sub frame i got as seen better days, but once i get into it I'll compare measurements between parts.. Now all i have to do is find that dam drivers side axle..
    Kevin
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    1986 NA 5sp - Bone stock, but in good shape
  • Spooledup300z
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    [quote=badboyz31]the other guys made some sort of doohicky that fixes the problem, me I just left it the way it is, and if it binds it binds. I will probably find a spare set of uprights and cut the mount off and re-weld them later![/quote

    Check Zilva when you choose to weld it, takes a serious Tig machine over 250 amps to weld that thick aluminum. You may be better off modding the shock tower
    87T, My build thread http://z31performance.com/forum/z31-…lee-s-87t-rb26
  • badboyz31
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    [quote]Spooledup300z wrote:
    Originally posted by badboyz31
    the other guys made some sort of doohicky that fixes the problem, me I just left it the way it is, and if it binds it binds. I will probably find a spare set of uprights and cut the mount off and re-weld them later![/quote

    Check Zilva when you choose to weld it, takes a serious Tig machine over 250 amps to weld that thick aluminum. You may be better off modding the shock tower
    oh i would not be welding it, I would take it somewhere and have them weld it!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • stufferton
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    You could weld it with a hobbyist machine, like a Miller 165/185. Or the Lincoln that Satan uses, it just means more, smaller passes instead of one large pass. Personally I feel more comfortable with bulding up multiple passes than one big hot pass…you want your weld to penetrate both work pcs evenly. If you were to cut your weld in half the penetration area should look like a circle for T joints, more spade like for butt joints.

    Build thread http://z31performance.com/showthread…-Paint-done-eh
  • Richard_85ZXT
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    didn't want to go through 24 pages right now but since this is done and I missed it any change there would be another group buy for this again?
  • badboyz31
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    I actually think I found something the would really help with the angel of the mount as they replace the bushing with spherical ball joints! I'm gonna give them a try and see if they would help angle them better!

    http://www.importpartspro.com/splrsbz32.html
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • Spooledup300z
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    badboyz31 wrote: I actually think I found something the would really help with the angel of the mount as they replace the bushing with spherical ball joints! I'm gonna give them a try and see if they would help angle them better!

    http://www.importpartspro.com/splrsbz32.html
    It wouldn't help you, 240 guys have a tried that route, only way to solve this issue as I stated before. Is to either modify the upper shock mount, or cut and re-weld the rear lower mount. The advantage of running the z32 rear knuckle is weight saving of like 5lbs.

    It's so much easier to just swap the bearing/hub, rear E-brake assembly into the rear 240 steel knuckle. Also is you ever choose to use the stance coil over kit for the z31 it uses the S Rear subframe lower mounting.
    87T, My build thread http://z31performance.com/forum/z31-…lee-s-87t-rb26
  • badboyz31
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    [quote]Spooledup300z wrote:
    Originally posted by badboyz31
    I actually think I found something the would really help with the angel of the mount as they replace the bushing with spherical ball joints! I'm gonna give them a try and see if they would help angle them better!

    http://www.importpartspro.com/splrsbz32.html
    It wouldn't help you, 240 guys have a tried that route, only way to solve this issue as I stated before. Is to either modify the upper shock mount, or cut and re-weld the rear lower mount. The advantage of running the z32 rear knuckle is weight saving of like 5lbs.

    It's so much easier to just swap the bearing/hub, rear E-brake assembly into the rear 240 steel knuckle. Also is you ever choose to use the stance coil over kit for the z31 it uses the S Rear subframe lower mounting.
    oh ok, but as for the stance coils for the z31 you can still use them with the z32 uprights you just have to state that you want z32 lower mounts for the rear instead, I know this because 1sickZ used the stances with the z32 uprights on his z and never really ran into any problems! and I have the exact rearend from his car in my car, but I still will most likely pick up a spare set of z32 uprights and have the mounts rewelded, it would actually be cheaper for me that way cause I know people!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • Spooledup300z
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    I tried to contact stance about the uprights and never heard back from them, so maybe they do sale them. Make sure whoever you know, is a good aluminum welder, this will require preheating and some deep root welds IMO. It has to take alot of abuse
    87T, My build thread http://z31performance.com/forum/z31-…lee-s-87t-rb26
  • badboyz31
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    yea i know a few guys who have been welding for 20+ years and are excellent aluminum welders, as for the the z32 uprights you can buy them from tougefactory just contact them and you can also buy the from frsport.com!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project
  • DMANN
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    Not really all that hard to make the z32 uprights to work, and yes…1sickz did have a issue with the bushings starting to tear on him…

    Hammer shock tower, cut angle mounts and mount shocks done.
    88na2T-s13,q45 swap 12.6@110mph
    87T 2+2 auto,stock
  • badboyz31
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    DMANN wrote: Not really all that hard to make the z32 uprights to work, and yes…1sickz did have a issue with the bushings starting to tear on him…

    Hammer shock tower, cut angle mounts and mount shocks done.
    from what I can tell the mounts are not torn at all, and this is the exact rear from his car, also I get the hammer shock tower part, but I'm just not getting the angle mounts!
    1uz Swapped, lowered, flaked out '86 z31
    '72 Datsun 510 4dr, ka24de-T, slammed resto mod
    '84 z31 turbo, coils, wheels a.k.a the gfs weekend car
    '86 na2t parts for now a.k.a eventually will get running with a/c daily
    '83 280zx project backburner a.k.a ls turbo drag car one day
    Custom vg30et tube chassis drift exocet project