S13/S14/S15 Subframe Conversion Kit GB-STANCE MULTILINK!!

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YOU WILL BE WELDING THINGS :tomates Thought that was clear from the beginning. This is a weld together kit, requires a lot of welding and cutting. Requires an experienced welder/fabricator for the install, though greatly simplifies install because all the parts are pre-fabbed. You will be cutting and welding and test fitting. You shouldn't need to be measuring or centering the subframe or aligning it.

Why do the rear studs not come welded?
The reason is simple, and I have already stated it. The fit between the studs and subframe must be a tight slip fit for strength. Variations in subframe and Z31 chassis mean the studs cannot be prewelded to the template as initially considered during prototype phases. The front tubes do not come pre-welded to the U-shape connectors for the same reason. Pre-welding means you will either have a sloppy fit, no fit at all, or be cutting everything apart and starting over.

To me, the impact of this change is minimal.. Maybe 5 extra minutes and 1 extra process step. Here is an example:
1.) Insert studs into subframe
2.) Lay template/rear bar over studs
3.) Weld to studs (AS PICTURED)
4.) Remove rear bar with studs attached from subframe. Bam, its now a perfect fit to YOUR subframe.

If your worried about your welding skills causing things to warp, maybe its not for you. I'm not a pro welder by any means, but as you can see, I easily welded everything together without warping or distortion. Also remember, this stuff isnt 18ga sheet metal. Its thick, strong stuff.

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35 of these will be sold, 5 will actually be installed

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This is the only part I didn't see coming, but if it's a necessity then there's no other way.
Are the U-shaped parts welded up except for the tube portion? Will that be the only portion that needs to be actually welded to the "u shape" or are the top and bottom plates from the "u shape" also just cut outs that need welding?

oh, and:


20.) Careless-S14 STANCE Bushings

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Everything will need to be welded.

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Thanks to MrKaira I now have his spot, #27. His plans changed for his Z31. And yes I will take the Stance bushings. Not sure if I need S13 or the offset S14 yet because I have to obtain the subframe for the install. :lol:

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Plans change as in, may not even have the car when these are ready. Good luck Mark!

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Can anyone else hear the sounds of ankles breaking as people jump off the bandwagon? Z31moment!

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[quote]DeleriousZ wrote:

Originally posted by Mike_GruiZinga

YOU WILL BE WELDING THINGSCan anyone else hear the sounds of ankles breaking as people jump off the bandwagon? Z31moment!

Sorry not everyone has an expensive welder or even the skill of welding. I can MIG and have a small MIG welder, but it's not just a Z31 thing.

You guys just love the stereotype of Z31 owner with either no money, or "OMG fabrication! I'm out!" With your shops and expensive Tig welders and Mills.

Were not all trying to do the same thing.

Re: S13/S14/S15 Subframe Conversion Kit GB-PAY YOUR BILL

Welding the studs to the bar is probably a total of 5% of the welding required to assemble the entire kit and is required for proper fitment. TIG is not required. Not sure why there are hesitant feelings about this. People almost seem ungrateful that I wasted countless hours and spent plenty of my own money to bring this to market.

Pricing is released. Final kit price is $190 shipped to continental USA. You put down a $50 deposit, this means you owe a remainder of $140. Please pay your bill (mike_Gruizinga@yahoo.com) and make sure the shipping address is correct.

I will update the list with those who would like the discounted STANCE bushings with their kit. Please pay for those as well at this time.

Thanks,

-Mike

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Hit a brotha up if you get unclaimed units!

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^The only difference between now and the original post is the welding of the rear studs.

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pretty much the only reason why I'm not complaining, I was just curious. and for 200 bux, it's just 8 hours I don't have to spend trying to do this shit myself, which would take more than 8 hours anyways.

time is money = save time, pay money
money is time = save money, pay time.

rather pay in money than in time.

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Wow, can't believe you peps!!!
It is as easy as it gets!!! Futher more I'm sure you U.S. guys have alot more shops and people that do portable welding, rent a welder!!!
Heck even I can get a tractor repair or tire repair guy to come out for a hour for $50.00 to weld something.

I did the swap and the only welding I had to do was boxing in the knotches and the extensions.

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Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Not sure what all the squauking is about....

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this is a easy weld up, you don't have to have an expensive welder just a good one hell go rent a good welder it will cost you $100 after you get your deposit back